tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post1807118284217594377..comments2024-03-20T08:06:18.312+00:00Comments on Benny's Blog: The Power behind the ThroneBenny Hazlehursthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-82607144932888961802012-10-04T12:20:00.407+01:002012-10-04T12:20:00.407+01:00Excellent article, Benny, thank you. I am reminded...Excellent article, Benny, thank you. I am reminded on St Francis' day that his movement was being institutionalised even before his death, much to his sorrow. Yet IMHO Rowan's thinking is fundamentally flawed - if you wish to preserve something you have to be prepared to change, (didn't Jesus say something like that, if you wish to live you must die) Did the church's preservation of its tradition when it came to Galileo, abolition of slavery, women's votes, Jewish emancipation, to name but a few, preserve it or hasten its death? Each one of those ate away at its moral and spiritual credibility.<br />Society has rapidly come to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong or abnormal about being gay and in a loving relationship; the church's refusal to change will be seen as yet another of those moments when it preserved its life only to die as a result. Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-23424961338675917422012-09-28T21:42:48.160+01:002012-09-28T21:42:48.160+01:00I am glad that you have been encouraged and thank ...I am glad that you have been encouraged and thank you for your honesty.<br /><br />You might be interested in the network called Accepting Evangelicals which I help to run. There you will find that you are certainly not alone...<br /><br />www,acceptingevangelicals.org Benny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-6623726959315985972012-09-28T13:23:27.743+01:002012-09-28T13:23:27.743+01:00This post is my first introduction to you, and you...This post is my first introduction to you, and your blog, and I would like to say thank you. Thank you for writing common sense, honestly, thank you that you're brave enough to articulate your own experiences, which I suspect are related to why my husband left our Christian Union at college in Aberystwyth in the late 80s (I never even joined). Thank you also for making clear in your profile, that I'm not the only person who's worshipped in evangelical churches for 25 years who thinks as I do on the subject of homosexuals. I shall follow your blog with considerable interest as I start ordination training.ramtopsrachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125522822674962696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-65435310446476327152012-09-27T21:34:52.222+01:002012-09-27T21:34:52.222+01:00Thank you BoscoThank you BoscoBenny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-48306182993728210142012-09-27T21:34:15.559+01:002012-09-27T21:34:15.559+01:00Thank you Tobias - I think that your letter was in...Thank you Tobias - I think that your letter was inspired, as is the analogy of herding cats.<br /><br />It is a shame that the cats won...Benny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-61261745202865978102012-09-27T21:30:55.470+01:002012-09-27T21:30:55.470+01:00Hi Erica - I don't think that the CNC would ag...Hi Erica - I don't think that the CNC would agree with me but it is very sweet of you to even suggest that!<br /><br />I agree that predicting how someone will react is hard, but the business world seems to be able to appoint visionary people with the strength of character to move things forward... I wonder why we don't seem to be able to?<br /><br />I also recognise that the opposite has happened at times - right beack to Thomas Becket!Benny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-80195133989923173812012-09-27T21:18:39.860+01:002012-09-27T21:18:39.860+01:00Good points... especially the academia argument. T...Good points... especially the academia argument. Thank you.Benny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-72589216152058866002012-09-27T21:12:47.078+01:002012-09-27T21:12:47.078+01:00Thank you. I like Tobias Haller's comment bel...Thank you. I like Tobias Haller's comment below that we are supposed to be sent rather than 'sedentary'. I wonder how the game to Episcopal Musical Chairs is going today?Benny Hazlehursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106740133903626260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-77945818842991901042012-09-27T20:03:29.399+01:002012-09-27T20:03:29.399+01:00Brilliant, thanks Benny. Articulating so well what...Brilliant, thanks Benny. Articulating so well what has been bumbling around in my own head. Blessings, Bosco.liturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-3048185795216683462012-09-27T14:52:00.058+01:002012-09-27T14:52:00.058+01:00Jesus wanted the apostles to be apostolic (sent) n...Jesus wanted the apostles to be apostolic (sent) not sedentary (sitting). Perhaps we should demolish the furniture?<br /><br />Shortly after his elevation (or incarceration) I wrote +Rowan with the advice Mordecai gave to Esther: that he had come to the position he held precisely to make use of his personal gifts and views to move things forward; instead he chose the role as focus of unity, a task as hopeless as herding cats.Tobias Stanislas Haller BSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047429477181560685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-89984558169097699122012-09-27T10:42:59.387+01:002012-09-27T10:42:59.387+01:00Brilliant post, thank you.
Assuming the CNC agreed...Brilliant post, thank you.<br />Assuming the CNC agreed with your assessment, do you think it is ever possible to predict how someone will react to becoming representative of a large institution? What would be the criteria?<br /><br />Would it be possible to select someone on that basis and not be surprised by the reality?<br /><br />The opposite has happened too, that people chose as their representative someone they thought would be safe only to find that he turned into a highly independent person.<br />Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-72423341339838035752012-09-27T08:05:59.296+01:002012-09-27T08:05:59.296+01:00Good post, Williams has had 4 main problems:
1). T...Good post, Williams has had 4 main problems:<br />1). The high expectations placed upon him by his liberal colleagues. Rowan was viewed as a perfect, inclusive, liberal candidate that make sure that the Anglican wouldn't allow gender or sexuality bar good candidates to the episcopate. Unfortunately, we know how that turned out!<br />2). Williams' background in academia. Williams was a radical theologian who retreated into a conservative mindset as he didn't want to "scare the horses". Put simply, Williams didn't want to be remembered as the ABC who broke the Anglican Communion. He relished debate in academia & actually out-argued Richard Dawkins but his great reverence for "the throne of Augustine" meant he was frightened of change.<br />3).The Anglican Covenant. While I do wonder how some atheists get elected to be bishops & think a church needs shared beliefs the covenant wasn't the answer. It was really an attempt to centralise power & once it fell Williams was fatally holed beneath the water-line.<br />4). The poisoned chalice ? It is an almost impossible vocation as GAFCON & the American Episcopal church are heading in polar opposite directions. <br />The future is unclear but I rather worry that a Sun columnist will be annointed soon .....DWWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404617856979446948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146780325302102876.post-57266571585750534362012-09-27T07:44:05.235+01:002012-09-27T07:44:05.235+01:00Thank you, I'm in Canterbury and have often se...Thank you, I'm in Canterbury and have often seen the Throne at the Cathedral. I'll now look it as an object of division rather than inclusive unity.UKViewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18114944341930758335noreply@blogger.com